Insights into Entertainment

Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 43 "Hacks, Honors and Baby Yoda"

November 25, 2019 Season 1 Episode 43
Insights into Entertainment
Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 43 "Hacks, Honors and Baby Yoda"
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Insights into Entertainment
Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 43 "Hacks, Honors and Baby Yoda"
Nov 25, 2019 Season 1 Episode 43
Joseph and Michelle Whalen
Hacking Disney, honoring their talent and much more this week
Show Notes Transcript

Disney+ continues to struggle with service outages and now accounts being hacked while the stars of Frozen get their own stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. We find out why we can't yet buy the adorable "Baby Yoda" from the new Mandalorian series and John Williams is back with his 71st Grammy nomination 58 years after his first.

In Entertainment News we hear from Aquaman's Willem Dafoe on the state of superhero movies, Michael Jackson's accusers are back in the news with their appeals and sad news that one of our favorite shows and past Insightful Pick of the Week Mindhunter won't be coming back anytime soon.

We'll finish up with our Insightful Picks of the Week, a programming note and a teaser for a special presentation we're working on for the holidays. Another week and another great podcast.



Speaker 1:
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Insightful podcast by informative insights into a podcast network.
Speaker 2:
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Speaker 3:
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come to insights into entertainment, a podcast series, taking a deeper look into entertainment and media. Your hosts, Joseph and Michelle Waylon, a husband and wife, team of pop culture fanatics are exploring all things from music and movies to television and fans.
Speaker 2:
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Speaker 4:
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welcome to insights and entertainment. This is episode 43 hacks honors and baby Yoda. Kevin, I'm your host, Joseph Waylon. And my astute and energetic co-host Michelle Wayland. Wow, look at that. Well, I wrote that last night. I didn't realize you wouldn't be very energetic this morning. So stretching here somewhere. So today we have a lot of Disney news. Actually today we'll be talking about Disney plus getting hacked. And I'll add my own little rant rant in from our experience last night. We have some information on our stars from frozen two, which we will be seeing this weekend. We have some information on merchandising for the Mandalorian. Uh, then we have some honors, uh, laid out for John Williams, uh, our favorite star Wars composer. And in our entertainment news, we have some, uh, uh, some words of wisdom from a William Willem Defoe from Aquaman, uh, stardom [inaudible]. Then we have, uh, Michael Jackson and his lawsuits. Once again, coming back into the news, that story that never dies. And then we have some sad news about a show that we enjoy, uh, kind of being on hiatus for quite some time now. And then we'll finish up with our insightful picks of the week, uh, ready to get going. Let's do it. All right, let's do it.
Speaker 4:
2:41
Go for Disney detective.
Speaker 5:
2:43
So in our first story, Disney pluses, obviously having lots of issues still, which we even got to encounter, uh, last night. So obviously everybody has been waiting for the launch of it. And then it was discovered, uh, early, there's week by ZD net that thousands of Disney plus accounts have already been hijacked and place on sale, on forums by hackers within less than a week of it debuting, um, enterprise and hackers have been reselling the accounts from anywhere from $3 to $11. While, obviously the cost is, you know, yeah, you're not, you're not really making a whole lot unless you're, you know, hijacking the whole lot and, you know, basically people were posting on, on Twitter, um, basically, you know, saying it's not even been a week and a half and my Disney account has already been hacked, you know, great security. They're unbelievable. So really didn't say how many, you know, in this article it didn't talk about how many people or what was happening. Um, you know, just that their accounts were, you know, the passwords were being hacked and, and people were, were reselling, you know, their accounts. Again, nothing from Disney on it. Nothing about how many, just the, you know, it was already happening so,
Speaker 4:
4:03
well, what I find interesting is Disney's one of the, um, more restrictive streaming providers where they're locking you down the four devices. So that in a way kind of makes hijacking these rather difficult, and it's fairly inexpensive. So there's not a lot of money,
Speaker 5:
4:21
right. You're not making a whole lot off of it, especially if you're selling it at $3 and you know, okay, cost seven you're here. So
Speaker 4:
4:30
yeah, and I would be interested to know exactly how they're hacking it. Is there an issue with Hashem and passwords? Is there a, uh, vector into the Disney plus system that's causing issues? And I'd also be curious to know if the hacking of accounts is what's causing a problem with the service disruptions or running in.
Speaker 5:
4:48
That could be too. And it also seems like it's what, you know, and, and as you were gonna rant, you know, it seemed like it's not every thing, you know, like we were having a problem with the Apple TV, we use Apple TV to, to connect to it. And that's where our problems seem to STEM from. And then we were having issues when we were trying to get the app on our phone to work. And then once I turned off the wifi on my phone, then we were, you know, using the data plan on our phone, we were able to get through to it, you know. And then I, I have friends who haven't had any issues with it. And then this morning we had no issues getting on, you know, the app. So where, you know, where does it STEM from wa you know, what's the common denominator? Is there one?
Speaker 4:
5:41
Well, and that's the thing, like with most streaming providers, what happens is there's usually take Netflix for instance, there's a partnership between the streaming provider and the ISP [inaudible] where the streaming provider will actually put a caching server inside the network. And what that's designed to do is cash what people are streaming on, on the network itself. So you don't have to egress outside of the network to the distribution content distribution network, the pull that down. So if we go to watch, I don't know, let's say the Mandalorian. So if we do that on Comcast or Comcast modem, Comcast would stream it down to their box inside their network. Then through them, everyone else would, when they went to go watch a the same program, they'd be streaming it from that box rather than streaming from the Disney plus content distribution network. What I suspect based on what we saw here is that there might have been some throttling being done by um, Comcast.
Speaker 4:
6:47
In our case we're, Comcast was actually causing the disruption. However, I do have a graphic up now on the computer here from a website that I use called down detector. And if you look at this, the trend lines that we see here kind of show that a lot of people are having problems during primetime hours. The drop off of reports come around, the 3:00 AM Mark in the morning. So you need to wake up early to watch your new episodes on Disney plus. Well, and what this tells me is this is most likely an issue with the content distribution network and the throttling that Disney actually is going through right now. I haven't done the research to see what CDN they're using at this point in time. A lot of people use, you know, there's, there's like three or four major ones out there, ACA, mine, a few others that people use for CDNs.
Speaker 4:
7:49
And it's entirely possible that Disney simply doesn't have enough resources judging from this graph that they need to actually support the load that they have. And, uh, and really that's unfortunate because given the subscribership that they had for this and the advanced subscribers, they had, Disney should have been well aware of the low that they were going to incur on this. And they should have had more than enough resources allocated ahead of time. Um, this is extremely frustrating when you get home on a Friday night from work and you want to go watch the new shows that dropped and you can't, what's the point of paying for a service that I can't use? Um, and this is kind of indicative of, you know, poor planning that Disney has had many times in the past with Mark, uh, merchandising. You know, we're, we've got a frozen two coming out this weekend.
Speaker 4:
8:46
When the first movie of frozen came out, Disney had absolutely no merchandising available. So you had parents that were frustrated, children that were upset and you know, you go back and you look at how they handle some of the park Robbins, you know, they like, they over planned the star Wars launch and people stayed away because of how bad their other launches were and how long away the lines were. So, you know, this doesn't come as a surprise that Disney launched a service that's not working correctly. This goes back as, as you well know, all the way back to the launch to the opening of Disneyland when Disney land was flooded, uh, beyond capacity and couldn't handle the, the launch on its day back in 1951 50, 55 55. So Disney has a history of poorly planning these launches like this and not devoting the resources and it, it strikes me as odd, especially considering Disney's got more money than God.
Speaker 4:
9:52
So if anybody could throw money at a problem, it's Disney and they're not doing it. Then we sat on the, on hold for 15 minutes trying to report a problem and never even had our fault. And then we basically streamed it from your phone. Yeah, we've had to find a work around and that's, that's unacceptable. I'm sorry. I know they're not charging a lot for the service right now, but it's Disney and Disney makes enough money that they can do it. Right. Yeah. So that's our, our, my ran on Disney plus right now. So frozen to tell us about our frozen to news.
Speaker 5:
10:30
So obviously as we've mentioned, frozen two opens this weekend. We will be seeing it tomorrow. Um, it's kind of interesting. The, the reviews have been kind of mixed. Um, you have obviously die hard Disney fans who loved it. I had one friend who actually saw it on a preview last weekend, um, and she said there's, you know, a lot of little, uh, inside jokes, uh, some eighties references for certain, you know, for certain things like for the parents and other little, you know, Easter eggs that she couldn't really talk about because obviously the movie hadn't officially come out. And then there are others that are like, yeah, it was kind of boring, but you know, obviously we'll know more, uh, tomorrow, uh, as we see it. Um, but the story that we're talking about, uh, is that the two stars, Kristen bell and Edina Menzel actually got stars on the Hollywood walk of fame.
Speaker 5:
11:28
Um, [inaudible], uh, this past week, uh, it was actually on Tuesday, uh, it was a double honor, uh, or a dual honor, um, where both stars actually got their own stars. Um, they actually, uh, Mendell Menzel actually said she thought they were actually going to be sharing a star together, not realizing that they were going to get two stars, you know, right next to each other. Um, so this was kind of, you know, a sweet and nice, uh, uh, honor for, for both of them. Um, uh, Kristen actually had said, uh, there are real moments that make a career and there are real moments that make a life. Um, and obviously they had just experienced a real moment earlier that day when a group of protestors showed up, um, before the festivities. Um, but everything went off without a hitch. And, um, uh, Menzel actually had said about, um, when she was 15, she had actually taken a trip to New York and had taken a picture of Barbara Streisand star, um, you know, of herself next to it.
Speaker 5:
12:36
So, you know, even as 15 year old self, it was, you know, never imagining that one day she'd be there. So, you know, as you know, corny is, you know, it could be, you know, it does give you something, you know, for, for people, you know, something to kind of look up to. And, you know, maybe one day I'll be, you know, their type thing. So it was a cool little thing. Obviously both women have been very busy along with, you know, the rest of the cast, um, promoting, you know, the film, there's been, you know, they've been all over the place. Um, I was telling you, you know, about, uh, the, the little frozen, you know, crosswalk thing that James Gordon had done. You know, so it, it's all over the place. You're definitely gonna, you know, see it all over the place and like you were just saying, you know, the merchandise has been out, you know, for, for, it seems like a month already.
Speaker 5:
13:30
Um, so does he definitely got ahead of this one here? Yeah. Yeah. So it'll be interesting to see how the movie goes and how, how all of that is so cool. Very cool. Then we have Mandalorian news, so on the reverse side of having a lot of merchandise out and whatever, uh, we're going to talk about the Mandalorian. Obviously now it's, we're, the third episode has dropped. Um, if you haven't seen it, it's probably because you don't have Disney plus, but obviously the spoiler alert oiler alerts, it's, it's been three weeks already. Um, basically the, the big news was baby quote unquote Yoda. Um, you know, like everybody, you know, and, and there's so many different memes out there, which, you know, every day there's another funny one. Um, you know, where, you know, basically the, the one in why we call Kevin is that, you know, basically, yes, we know it's not baby Yoda.
Speaker 5:
14:36
We don't know what his name is yet. We don't know what the speech, we don't know the species. We know it's, we know he's really, you know, in some way, shape or form related to Yoda. He's the same coloring. We don't know if it's a boy or a girl. So we're just gonna call it baby Yoda. And then in the one meme it's, it's fine. We're just going to call him baby Kevin know. You know, they don't help themselves by, by putting him in the same colored robes too. Right, exactly. Right. So you have, obviously there's tons of different fan, you know, theories out there. Is he a clone? Is he, you know, an offshoot? Was he a horcrux and all this, but basically, you know what, what this article is, talks about why there were no toys and it was because they didn't want to spoil anything because obviously every time there's a new movie or something, you have all these, you know, toys that come out ahead of it, AKA, you know, the, the, you know, uh, just like, you know, with frozen and stuff like that.
Speaker 5:
15:40
And they didn't want to because everybody then was gonna know the spoiler to it. And star Wars has been been notorious for this since force awakens because so much information was coming out from the toy lines that they had. Right. It was spoiling, you know, plot lines and stuff like, right. And, and being someone that works in a manufacturing industry and knowing how long it takes products to not only get to the stores to be bought and how far ahead you have to order them and how far ahead you have to make them, you know, to, to be able to keep this a secret. You know, because there are number of stories coming out now that basically within the next couple of weeks, yes baby Yoda merchandise is, or baby whatever is going to be coming to light. So you figure, you know, other people have known about it, you know, months in advance and they've obviously had to keep it quiet up until you know this moment.
Speaker 5:
16:42
And, you know, I, I've been known from time to time to criticize Disney for their, their greed and money grabbing and raising prices and stuff like that. And this one is kind of the exact opposite. They could have been making a fortune off of this up until now, after the first episode of Mandalorian they got, have been selling. He's like, Oh yeah. And uh, they made the conscious decision to hold off so that it wouldn't spoil things for the fans. And kudos to them for that. Not to say that they're not gonna make a ridiculous, you know, at this point, if you look on Twitter, if you look on Facebook going, if you look on any social media, everyone is like, Oh my God, I want one, I need one, I need to have one. When does this come into my life? And maybe yours are going to be the poor dogs from, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:
17:34
And we have a pork cause he's just really cute and taste as good for, I don't know, baby Yoda might look at him. [inaudible] you know, I do like chicken. He likes frogs too, right, right. I was going to say he likes frogs. So we should excuse me, our baby Yodas to be in the store probably before, before Christmas. Yeah. And what was also interesting in the article was, um, one of the stars was, was talking about watching, you know, cause it is a puppet. It's not CGI, you know, it is a, you could tell it has that realistic look, has that original Yoda, you know, from the original trilogy versus, you know, the newer trilogy look to it. And he said it was just amazing to watch, like the facial expression, you know, there were two puppeteers doing it. One was doing the eyes, one was doing the ears and, and he said, you know, it just, it looked like, you know, so, yeah.
Speaker 5:
18:35
So very, very cute and definitely, um, you know, and Carl, Carl weathers was actually one, you know, he, he says he has his own name. He's, you know, very interesting and very knowledgeable and very cute. He says, and I never used that word, but he's a cute little guy. Um, so obviously we, you know, need to keep watching to, to find out, you know, more of his, his story says Friday's episode in Friday's episode was very cool. Yeah. On so many different levels. And then obviously the baby Yoda aspect just made it cute and adorable. So sticking with star Wars related, look how I kind of just almost like you planned it that way. It's like almost like I did it. So our favorite composer, John Williams NABS his 71st Grammy nomination 58 years after his first. Um, so when the Grammy nominations came out, it now brings his total to 71 and actually 24 wins to date.
Speaker 5:
19:37
So Williams was nominated for composing and arraign, um, is nominated in a composing and arranging. Um, so it's for actually Galaxy's edge symphonic suite, which he wrote for the star Wars theme land [inaudible], excuse me, in Disneyland. And he's also, uh, was nominated for best instrumental composition. While his arrangement, uh, Hedwig themed the best known piece from Harry Potter's, uh, films was also cited for, uh, instrumental arrangement. So he got two nominations. So his 70 70th and 71st. Um, and it's his, he has, you know, 58 year history. Um, you know, basically going back to 1961 when he scored the, um, uh, uh, the T V score for checkmate. Um, obviously Henry Mann Sini, um, is also up there with nominations. He ended up with a 72 nominations and Quincy Jones is actually the champ of them all with 80 nominations in, you know, in total. So, yeah. You know, between films and television shows.
Speaker 5:
20:50
And that was not, yeah, that wasn't him. Um, and he actually had a 28 wins a total. Um, so, you know, kind of cool that, you know, wall star Wars, you know, the star Wars films or, you know, or at least the original sagas are, are coming to a close, you know, he's still, you know, being, you know, nominated and who's to say that, you know, next year after, you know, um, riser Skywalker comes out, he doesn't end up, you know, with another one. Um, it was actually the music force, uh, Galaxy's edge was recorded in Abbey road's theater, uh, in August of 2018. Um, and he, you know, was monitoring. He wasn't there while they were performing it. He was actually monitoring it, um, for Massachusetts where yeah, you watched it on YouTube just like we do. So, you know, so when the, uh, awards come out, it'll be very cool if he, you know, gets another win, you know, in his hat. But if not, we know, hopefully there'll be, you know, some more nominations coming his way.
Speaker 4:
22:03
Okay. Very cool. And I think that's all we had for Disney detective.
Speaker 5:
22:07
That is it for the Disney stuff.
Speaker 4:
22:09
All right, let's move on to entertainment news.
Speaker 6:
22:16
Uh,
Speaker 4:
22:18
so tell us about willing to FAU and, and why he's down on superhero movie.
Speaker 5:
22:24
Well, he's not really down on, on superhero movies, so to speak. Um, so he's actually part of the Martin Scorsese's film, the Irishman, but obviously he's also known for being part of superhero movies as well. Obviously being the former green goblin, um, and being, uh, in an Aqua man as well. Um, there was a really good green goblin. Yeah. Yeah. And he, cause he just has that evil face. Yeah. He, he has that, you know, look about him. Uh, he said you have to have fun with some of the things that you do. Uh, because there's a lot of hardware, there's lots of crazy crane shots and all those things, but it's fun. Um, but stuff is overshot. They spend a lot of money on big set pieces because that's what delivers the action. And, you know, they're, they're too noisy, but let's not get into this, you know, I don't want to bite the hand that feeds me, but seriously, folks looks, you know, those movies aren't what I run to.
Speaker 5:
23:25
So he's obviously not, you know, a fan of the big, giant noisy, you know, type, you know how he describes, you know, superhero movies. He, you know, he likes to, you know, go into a dark movie theater and, you know, be with strangers and have the suspense and, and things like that. So, you know, kind of, he's kind of on the fence between, you know, like obviously I star in them and you know, pays my bill. As long as you keep coming to check, she'll still do them. Right. Exactly. You know, he says that films have have changed. You know, over time, you know, egos, you know it. It's just how the culture kind of changes and you have to be that forward looking person and go with, you know, you know where the change is. He says I'm old fashioned. And the fact that nothing beats sitting in a dark room with a bunch of strangers watching a light on a screen and having the experience, he says, I think as everyone gets punched out from too much stuff on TV and too many choices, they're going to want that.
Speaker 5:
24:25
Um, you know, so it, it was interesting cause he can kind of see both sides of the fence. Like, you know, and I guess that's also why there's so many different types of movies out there. You know, if you, you know, want to see the action superhero movie, you can, and if you don't want to, you can go and see the Downton Abbey, you know, movie or if you need a kid's movie to go see the, there's always, you know, there's always a mafia and give Martin Scorsese some time and there'll be a mafia mafia movie out there too, so. Okay. All right. So it wasn't as bad as his Scorsese's been. No, no. He was kind of, yeah, he, I think he, he knows because he, he plays in both. Right. You know, like he has to, that's the thing, when you're getting your bills paid by both sides, you kind of have played diplomat with it and you know, and that's fine.
Speaker 5:
25:21
And obviously neither one is hurting, you know, at this point. So let's drag Michael Jackson back into the mud again. Well, we've been talking about this for, for ages now. So a California appeals court, uh, appeared strongly inclined on Monday to give new life to the lawsuit that was filed by the two men. He accused Michael Jackson of molesting them when they were boys. So three judges from the second district court of appeal said in a tentative ruling that the lawsuits against the two corporate entities that Jackson owned should be reconsidered by trial, that the court dismissed them in 2017 so basically there was the documentary that came out and you know, these two now men, you know, accused, you know, Michael Jackson of molesting them basically, you know, it was a back and forth with the trial, statute of limitation, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now they've basically, um, you know, the, the court has come back and said, no, we're going to open up this case again and, and we're going to, you know, see where it goes.
Speaker 5:
26:27
So they're going to open these back up because there's some legal merit or some new information that came out. I really hoped to not opening these backup just because a documentary came out and there's a chance to get some more press, right. Because there's, you know, there's some sort of popular push because of a documentary. Uh, I hate to see that sort of thing driving the legal process. Right? Right. If there's a legitimate legal reason, if new evidence came to light, um, then you know, by all means pick it up, you know, and pursue it to its, its full end. But I hope they're not doing it just as a publicity stunt and hopefully again it's some closure for these, for these two, you know, and, and maybe others that, you know, never came forward and, and, and that's the thing I, you know, if nothing else comes out of this, I hope it empowers other victims out there to have the urge and the freedom to come forward.
Speaker 5:
27:26
You know, they were, you know, they were young at the time, young boys, now they're 37 and 41 and by saying, Oh statute of limitation, you know, that makes someone, you know, that could be in their 50s or sixties Oh well I don't want to come forward, you know, or it's been so long. No, you should, you know, that's where the laws need to change. And you know, no matter when you were wronged, no matter what the statute of limitations, you know, the reason the statute of limitations is in there is because of the degradation of evidence over time, right? It's impossible to prove it. However, there are certain crimes that don't have a statute of limitations. This should by far by one of that. And that, that's kind of my point. Is that why, you know, why should there, you know, be that on top of it, this is this, this is such a heinous crime that, you know, this stands up there next to murder.
Speaker 5:
28:27
You're, you're, you're stealing someone's life and crimes like this. So there's absolutely no reason why there should be a statute of limitations. It makes, you know, granted the, the proof of evidence and the survivability of evidence makes it difficult to prove it further on, but it doesn't make it any less of a crime. Right. You know, and in this case, you know, Michael Jackson can't speak for himself. He's been gone a while now. So it's, and in most cases in most cases like these, the, the accused is never going to take the stance. So that can't be a reason to say, you know, we can't pursue this. Um, they're clearly not going to get any kind of vindication from a user to a offender or victim standpoint. Right. Right. Um, but that's not to say that they shouldn't get some level of justice out of it. Right. And sometimes just coming forward and having their day in court, you know, and having other people believe them again, even though they're never going to be able to face him and, and, and have, you know, a jury look at him and go, yeah, you were guilty. Just that, that vindication. You know, my, the, and the example that it sets for other people who
Speaker 4:
29:42
don't feel empowered and are intimidated, you know, to see someone come out against the public figure like this after so many years and get a judgment in your favor is enough to empower victims to come forward or come forward and seek justice. And for the predators out there to think twice before they prey on victims. Again. Yup. So tell us about mine.
Speaker 5:
30:10
So mine Hunter happens to be one of our favorite shows from Netflix, but it seems like we might have to wait a little while for a season three. So the show has been on, uh, since 2017 a season two came out, uh, over the summer, I guess it was. Um, and now it seems that, you know, they were kind of putting things into place for season three, but the, uh, director that they got to, um, do the next season unfortunately has such a busy schedule coming up, um, that now they're not even sure when the next season, uh, will come to light. Um, so it looks like, um, you know, based off of everything else that he, that he has, uh, coming up that we're looking at maybe a 20, 22 release at the earliest, uh, which is kind of unfortunate. Um, this last season, uh, that just came out actually ended up being a huge development.
Speaker 5:
31:14
Um, for those of you that don't watch the show, there was a lot of, um, the storyline was held around, uh, Atlanta children that were being, um, abducted and murdered. And you know, what you found out, you know, if you didn't already know the story, it was basically these were cold cases. You know, in most cases there hadn't been anybody found, you know, no new information. But because of the show, when it came out, it actually had a huge development in the murder cases and that there's actually been a bunch of new things that have come to light. And it's really from, you know, the show opening up people's eyes about it. Um, you know, that, that the Atlanta mayor and the Atlanta, you know, police chief, we're looking at new evidence to try and figure out what had happened, you know, so many years ago. So,
Speaker 4:
32:11
and again, like we were talking about in the listsF a article, you know, it's exposure. You know, this show has raised awareness. It's, it's raised exposure to these things and just raising exposure decades later has led to more interest in an investigation.
Speaker 5:
32:27
Right. So, you know, so kudos to them for helping to bring light to, to, you know, these cold cases. It's unfortunate that, you know, that we're going to have to wait a, um, but what's kind of funny is that for us in the U S we're so used to, you know, seasons coming up and you know, very quickly, you know, or within a year, you know, that's, that's how we're used to. Whereas if you look at like the U K you know, the way that they do their series are, are completely different. You know, their seasons are much shorter. Um, and they'll go three or four years in between, you know, look at, you know, like Sherlock, um, you know, how, you know, it's like a year and a half between, um, you know, seasons and a lot of it's because of the actors being part of other things or, you know, they're just taking their time, you know, writing and, you know, and, and getting everybody, you know, everybody's scheduled to line up, you know, even doctor who, you know, we kinda got used to the doctor who's, you know, every year there would be a new doctor who, and that's not how BBC, you know,
Speaker 4:
33:39
they don't take why Netflix doesn't take it up. Take a page out of Disney's book here and replace the director. Disney has a, has a habit of changing directors. Like I changed socks, you know,
Speaker 5:
33:50
and that's, and that's the other thing too, is, you know, there's so many different directors out there. Why, Oh, okay. You know, like if, and, and that's the, like you said, how many times has, you know, directors changed, you know, mid production of something here. You haven't even started doing anything yet. There, there's not somebody that's in at home not doing a project, the changes. So again, you know, maybe, maybe something will happen and they'll, you know, move up the dates. But as of right now, it looks like we have to wait a little while to see our serial killers come back. But there's so much other stuff to watch.
Speaker 4:
34:29
That's true. That is true. Speaking of which, we're going to talk about some of that when we come back with our insightful picks of the week.
Speaker 6:
34:40
Uh,
Speaker 5:
34:42
go for your insightful pick. So my insightful pick comes from Disney plus, I know IG shocker. Um, and it's actually a story, uh, a show to watch it right this morning. As a matter of fact. Um, it's called the Imagineering story. This was actually one that we had talked about in, in our Disney news couple of weeks back, uh, before Disney plus even launched. And it sounded like it was definitely gonna be a show that was going to be something that would definitely peak my interest and yours as well. And obviously, um, it has, so the show was focused on the Walt Disney Imagineers and, uh, takes an in depth look into the history and the creation of Walt Disney theme parks and attractions around the world. Um, just like all the other original Disney television shows, uh, there's only three episodes out right now. Uh, we actually just finished watching episode two.
Speaker 5:
35:41
Um, and it's, it's interesting because again, being the Disney historian people that we kind of are, you know, we always look for that, you know, that new, you know, uh, inside information type type thing. Um, and what's happened over the years is a lot of times it's the same story that we've heard over and over, like nothing new or, or interesting. And, you know, th we've only watched the first two episodes. There's the new one that actually dropped yesterday that we haven't seen yet. And it is interesting because there are those little tidbits that, you know, the most in depth Disney person might not have known, um, or the little side stories. And you get to see video clips that you haven't seen and interviews that you've never heard before. Um, so the first episode basically talks about how Disneyland came to be and you know, all the troubles that they had.
Speaker 5:
36:41
And, and you know, um, you know, the, the cement was still wet when the park opens. So women, you know, who wore high heels all the time, you know, back in the 50s, you know, they were getting stuck. Um, and you know, the problems. Do you have, you know, water fountains available or do you have restrooms available, you know, on opening day and, and just these little, you know, tidbits of, of problems. Um, and what was interesting was that in the, you know, second up episode, it talks about the life of Disney after Walt's passing and, you know, how do we go on, how do we move on, what do we do next? And you know, they talk about getting, um, you know, putting together Walt Disney world and all of that. And then once Disney world opened, it was like, okay, well now what do we do?
Speaker 5:
37:33
And they decided to go with Epcot. And you know, even though Epcot wasn't what we have today is Epcot wasn't what wall envision. They kind of took some of what he wanted and molded it. And what we found interesting, which we didn't realize was that Tokyo Disneyland was basically going on, you know, being constructed at the same time that Epcot was like they opened within what, six months of each other. Right. Um, you know, and that was something that, you know, I didn't really know, you know, so it was interesting seeing, you know, all of that in this episode. Um, which was kind of the one that I was waiting to see. They had a lot of haunted mansion stuff. And you know, the, the history behind you want to call it mantra. Yeah. I kinda, yeah, a little bit. I think, you know, so it was interesting again, you know, a lot of stuff on the haunted mansion I knew, but there were a lot of little things, you know, that I didn't know.
Speaker 5:
38:29
So it was a very cool, you know, so if you're, you know, into Disney and, and you like learning about the history and how things came to be, it's a really good show. Each episode is about an hour long. Um, lots of different interviews, lots of archival footage. Um, you know, just, you know, we were, Ooh, I wonder how much that goes for, I wonder how much, you know, the original art of this is. And so really cool. You know, if you ever want to know another auction after this episode cause that's what's gonna happen. So if you like finding out the backstory behind, you know, your favorite rides or attractions or you know, even just, you know, the, the whole idea that, you know, Walt Disney world is its own little, you know, quote unquote country and that, you know, no place else in the world is as organized, you know, their own Navy. You know, that's pretty awesome. Um, you know, so if that's, you know, your type of thing, definitely check it out. You know, obviously if you have Disney plus.
Speaker 4:
39:29
Okay, very cool pick. I agree. Cause I watch it with you. Very, very good. Thank you.
Speaker 6:
39:38
Uh,
Speaker 4:
39:40
so my pick this week is from another, a recent addition to the streaming Wars here. And that is for all mankind streaming on Apple TV plus the first crude mission to the moon during the space race in the late 1960s was a global success for NASA in the United States. But this drama answers the question, what if the space freeze had never ended? And an Oh, I should've had that keyed up in an alternate timeline. The USSR beats the U S to the moon, thus setting its first Russian cosmos, Alexey Leonov on the moon, dubbed as red moon. This event leaves NASA in devastation. This doesn't mean those working there have given up as they challenged the Soviet union a second time to show that there is no giving up on hope. So this has been described as man in the high tower meets Apollo 11. Now I have not watched man in the high tower.
Speaker 4:
40:48
So it's an alternate universe type thing. Um, and what's kind of interesting is, you know, we won the space race by landing on the moon first. The Apollo program went for a few more missions but didn't really go as far as anyone Haute because of budget concerns. You know, we eventually turned to, uh, the space shuttle program and hadn't left earth orbit since then. So what this does is this postulates, you know, what happens if the Russians beat us there? Do we just give up like the Russians did? Um, then the push became, you know, they postulate that if that happened we would push for the next first, which would be the first woman and then the first moon base and then, then the next thing and the next thing. And that, you know, the theory behind the show is really that lack of competition from another superpower basically made us, you know, take a step back and rest on our laurels there.
Speaker 4:
41:47
And as a result, our space exploration efforts of have taken a beating as a result. Um, you know, you figure we haven't, aside from sending probes to Mars and, and you know, various other places, our manned exploration hasn't gone anywhere despite the fact that we are trying to get to Mars now. Uh, so the show itself works on that premise and it's a very well done show. It's, it has a very authentic feel to it. Um, you get the feel of the 60s and early seventies. They have the wardrobes down, they have the homes and the interior decoration down. They have the cars. I mean, it's, it has a very genuine, authentic feel to it. Um, and you're introduced to a large cast of characters. So you know, I mean, obviously you're introduced to all the Apollo astronauts. You're introduced to some of the key figures like a, uh, Verner Von Bron.
Speaker 4:
42:47
Um, some of the controllers like, um, uh, Deek Slaten. Um, so you get a lot of the personalities that were there. And then as the show progresses, you're introduced to these ancillary characters as they bring women in as a couple episodes are very, uh, female empowerment. Like, like it starts this female empowerment move early on. And, and just looking at the impact of that and how it would have affected the country and where things would stand now had that started when it did rather than 20 or so years later. Um, so [inaudible] got a very good feel to it. Um, my early concerns with the first couple of episodes was they had this, this drama that seemed kind of unnecessary that they were playing into it. And, um, and my concern when you take historical figures like this and you inject drama just for the sake of drama at the tracks from the story, and I was very relieved that a few episodes in that drama starts to play into the plot and it makes a lot more sense and it drives the plot forward.
Speaker 4:
43:54
So they do a very good job with the drama. Um, there's, I think they're five episodes in now, four episodes in two a 10 episode, first season here, uh, drops on Fridays on Apple TV plus. And I think it's a very good show. I think you'd enjoy it if you launched it. Definitely something I wanted to launch. So for all mankind streaming on Apple TV plus and that is my pick. Um, did we have any afterthoughts for this week? No, I don't think so. I did have a one programming note that I did mention. Uh, we to record these podcasts at some point in time on the weekend. We don't usually have a, a scheduled time for insights and entertainment and that's going to be changing. Uh, we're going to be moving to a regularly scheduled, uh, live stream and recording time. I think we're shooting for Thursdays at eight, is that correct?
Speaker 4:
44:52
I think so. Probably not this coming Thursday since it's Thanksgiving, right. Probably the Thursday after. So this coming, this next episode we will be streaming at our regularly scheduled some time on the weekend, sometime over the weekend. And we do, we will try to get some kind of notification out there as to what time. But the following weekend we're going to be moving to a regular schedule of 8:00 PM Eastern time on Thursdays where we will be recording and streaming live for everyone. Aside from that, we would love to get your feedback. You can email us@commentsandinsightsintothings.com or on Twitter at at insights underscore things. You can get our videos of all of our episodes on youtube.com/insights into things or on the web at www.insightsintothings.comortheaudioversionofourpodcastatpodcastatinsightsintoentertainment.comoronfacebookatfacebook.com backslash insights into things podcast. And one little thing that I did want to throw out there, kind of as a tree, a teaser with the holidays coming, and we do have a special project that we'll be working on. We will be releasing around the holidays. Look forward to that folks. Yep. And that's it. Another one in the books. All righty. We're out. Thanks a lot. Have a good one.
Speaker 2:
46:36
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