Insights into Entertainment

Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 23 "Disney Livid About Disney"

July 22, 2019 Joseph and Michelle Whalen Season 1 Episode 22
Insights into Entertainment
Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 23 "Disney Livid About Disney"
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This week we look at some of the harsh criticism lodged against the Disney Corporation and specifically Bob Iger by Disney heiress Abigail Disney. We look at some recently released details for Disney's new streaming media service. Then we'll talk about the partnership Disney and Spotify are engaged in. We'll take a moment to give Disney credit for honoring an american armed forces hero before we take a look at the latest teaser trailer for the new live action Mulan. We'll talk Emmy nominations, tributes to the Apollo 11 50th anniversary and some "Good Omens" news. As usually we'll wrap up with our Insightful Picks of the Week for another great podcast.

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Insightful podcast by informative posts, insights, a podcast network.

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Welcome to insights into entertainment, a podcast series, taking a deeper look into entertainment and media. Your hosts, Joseph and Michelle Waylon, a husband and wife, team of pop culture, phonetics are exploring all things from music and movies to television and fan

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Speaker 4:

Welcome to insights into entertainment. This is episode 23 Disney Livid about Disney. I'm your host, Joseph Waylon and my brilliant and beautiful cohost Michelle Wayland. Well, good evening, my loves. Good evening dear. We are, uh, recording a little off schedule here this week. Yes, we are. We have some weekend plans coming up so we didn't want to throw things too off schedule. So that's why we're, uh, recording tonight. We normally record a Saturday mornings and this is a Thursday. Thursday. Okay. Yeah. Wow. I don't know what day it is. The week goes by fast. Sure does. So we've got a pretty, a full show today and in our Disney detective, we will talk about Abigail Disney wants again, expressing her discontent with, uh, the company her grandfather founded. Then we will talk about new information coming out about the Disney plus streaming service. Uh, then Spotify partnering with Disney for some content. And, uh, we'll talk about Disneyland honoring a medal of honor recipient this week. Then we have the Disney official Milan teaser trailer to take a look at and dissect the bit. Sure. Then in our entertainment news, it is any time we will be talking about our Emmy nominations, which um, you'll be talking mostly about. Um, that's outside my, my area of expertise. Right, right. Uh, I'll talk about CBS news and it's live streaming of the Apollo 11, um, launch, not live streaming. I you guys, cause they're not launching it again, but it's a rebroadcast original, the original right in honor of the 50th anniversary. Then we have some information about a show that we liked, a good omens, uh, some, uh, uh, community service activity that a author Neil Gaiman has been involved in. Then we will move on to our insightful picks and I think we have some afterthoughts to talk about as well. Yeah. So shall we get to it?

Speaker 5:

Let's roll with it.

Speaker 4:

Alrighty. Go for Disney.

Speaker 5:

So as we had reported, I guess maybe about a month or so ago, there had been some, uh, news reports that came out about Abigail Disney, you know, basically saying what an atrocity it was that, you know, most of the cast members in, you know, the Disney parks were making, you know, barely anything to survive on where you have, you know, the CEO, you know, uh, you know, his salary 65, you know, million dollars, you know, versus, you know, the, the, the, uh, you know, the regular cast members can't even afford to put, you know, food on their, their table. Um, so she actually, um, Kinda went undercover. Um, she said she had gotten a bunch of messages on Facebook from distressed workers and she decided to kind of go undercover and see, um, she, she was quoted as saying, every single one of these people I talked to were saying, I don't know how I can maintain this face of joy in warm when I have to go home and forage for food in other people's garbage. She said, I was so livid when I came out of there because, you know, my grandfather taught me to revere these people that take your tickets and pour your soda. She said, those people are just as much the recipe for success. Um, she then directed her criticism obviously towards the CEO of a Disney Bob Iger, uh, saying that he's just not doing enough to help the company's employees. She says, Bob needs to understand he's an employee. Just the same as the people scrubbing gum off the sidewalk, a just as the, the people that are scrubbing gum off the sidewalk. Our employees, uh, she says that they are entitled to all the same dignity and human rights that he is.

Speaker 4:

And I fully applaud her for this. I think she is spot on with her criticisms of, of Disney and Bob Iger. Um, and I think, you know, this is another example of Disney doing it wrong.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. And it, it almost reminds me of the, the television show undercover boss where, you know, you have these corporations that, you know, the, the people at the top really don't know what it takes

Speaker 6:

to run their company and they don't know what some of their employees do. And they're the ones that are doing the brunt of the work and they're the ones that are out with everybody. And now, you know, maybe, I don't know if this is gonna change anything, it's probably not, but it's definitely bringing it to light. We're talking about it. There's more news stories about it. You know, the thing is, one, the, the disparity of the salary came to light Disney definitive by saying, you know, Bob Iger has been the reason for our success and he hasn't. I'm sorry, he just, he hasn't come in and done anything that generated the kind of revenue to justify a 65 point$6 million salary in 2018 no one, I'm sorry, I don't care who you are. No one can, can justify a salary that level. Right. Because at this point you're, you're making an excessive money that you're never going to be able. How were you able to spend that? You know, when you have, again, you have people that are, are going through other people's garbage, you know, and are probably working multiple jobs to put the food on the table. How can you, you can't justify it. And the other thing you have to look at as demographics, I mean Disneyland's in Anaheim, right? That is an exceptionally expensive place to live for cost of living. Oh, just California in general. California in general, but southern California where this is located is incredibly expensive. And when the company itself is raking in billions of dollars annually, right? They have absolutely no excuse not to be able to properly compensate their employees for the work that they do. Shame on Disney for even having this become an issue at this point in time. It's, it's really, it's an insult to, you know, Walt Disney, you know, when you like the story we talked about last week, where Disney refused to allow the family of, of deceased young boy who, who had a terminal disease put images, Disney images on his tombstone, because there's a Disney policy against it. Well, if you're going to go back to a policy that Walt Disney himself created, and then you need to, then you need to treat your employees the way that Walt Disney treat his employees. Otherwise, you're just a hypocrite at that point. Right? So, okay, next, next on our Disney or Disney plate, a Disney plus streaming service. So more news has come out about that. Um, so the hub is going to obviously have all of the star wars movies and the marvel movies, uh, to, to be able to be streamed. Um, they announced that Avenger's end game would be available starting December 11th. Um, all Pixar movies

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and some original shows, um, would obviously be on Disney plus as well. Um, then you also have all of the different marvel spinoffs that are going to be airing like the Avengers. Uh, um, show with Loki, excuse me. And then you have the show with scarlet witch and vision. Um, they're going to be debuting, um, next year it looks like, um, they did announce that the Mandalorian, um, that they're already getting ready to work on their second season, so that's pretty cool. Um, now that won't premiere until November 12th. Um, now the PLA, the, and actually the streaming service will actually go live on November 12th, and it's going to be$7 a month and it'll be launching, um, in the u s

Speaker 4:

now I have to say that it's surprisingly, um, reasonable for a Disney rate. And I think Disney is kind of realizing that it's great. We're going to put all of our movies here and we're going to put all the Pixar stuff up. Everything that they're highlighting right now, for the most part is

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preexisting content, right? They haven't really announced too many new things yet, right. Besides might have a half dozen to a dozen

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shows that they've got either in development or that we'll be releasing with the network. So I think Disney is smart enough to realize we're not offering enough to ask for

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anything to go. Right. Right to the middle you typically see on stream. And I think I could definitely see them going back and

Speaker 5:

doing a lot of like the older Disney channel shows. Um, you know, because in, you know, kind of a related thing, Netflix, you know, announced that they were going to be, um, losing the office and friends, which are their two highest, uh, binge, you know, watchable shows right now. And those are shows that have been off the air, you know, for years now. So I could definitely see them coming, you know, and bringing in, you know, some of the older content, you know, for the kids stuff and you know, like Hannah Montana and, and you know, other shows that, you know, they had, you know, brought certain stars, you know.

Speaker 6:

Well, I think the one thing that, that Disney is missing the boat on here is, you know, they're waiting til December 11th to, to premiere end game on the network. Right. I'm Kinda surprised that they're not doing from right off the bright. It should be from D. I mean it's been, and you know, it's been in the theater as long enough. It could be rereleased already, so there's no reason not to. And you're also, by then, it's probably already going to come out on DVD. Right. So that's a thing you're,

Speaker 4:

but seeing that, again, this is, this is Disney greed where Disney knows that don't make more money on DVD sales for the first two months,

Speaker 5:

three then on the streaming. Yeah. So at least they, they knew what to say.

Speaker 4:

Tice me to pay for a subscription service for buying it. Anyway, I understand that. But if you're going to entice me to pray for a subscription service available, you need to bring out your movies first there. Right. You know, I need to be able to get the movies there. There has to be an exclusive or it's your own damn network. Right. To have exclusivity there where I can get it there before I can see it anywhere else. Yeah. And I can almost guarantee you that$7 a month fee is not gonna last more than 12 months. Oh,

Speaker 5:

I'm sure they're gonna. Jack it up to 10, you know, oh look how much

Speaker 4:

I think we're offering. There's gonna very quickly come a point where we're going to decide whether or not it's worth having the service[inaudible] and much past$10. It's not worth it to. Right.

Speaker 5:

I totally agree. I totally agree. So, so in other streaming news, um, it was actually announced yesterday that Spotify was going to be partnering with Disney to create a streaming hub for Disney Marvel and star wars music. Um, so if you're a big fan of Disney music, um, Spotify has joined forces and now you can listen to your favorite Marvel Star Wars and Disney tunes 24, seven. So no longer do you have to search youtube, which we were just talking before we started. You know that youtube is starting to crack down on, um, the ability to rip content, the ability to rip content from there or iTunes for your favorite music from different classic movies or TV shows. So now they have a separate hub where you can access everything in one spot. So it actually started yesterday pretty much all over in the u s UK, Ireland, South Africa, Canada, Australia. Basically if you just go to Spotify and you search Disney, it'll give you different lists. So you have Disney hits, Disney favorites, best to star wars songs that you probably didn't even know were either Disney songs or star wars song. Um, and of course it's free. Um, as long as you don't mind having ads, which is, any of the services

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confuses me in this arrangement here is nothing that Disney does is free. So how was Disney monetizing?

Speaker 5:

I Dunno. I guess you know that if you don't want to have the ads just like with regular Spotify that you can pay to have the premium account. Um, and then, you know, but if you're not getting no, it's, it's the response defies. So, I dunno. So,

Speaker 4:

you know, you're obviously making it somewhere. I'm, I'm curious what Disney is getting out of it, but if I was Spotify, you know, I would also go into this relationship with a very cautious attitude. Right? Cause you look at what happened with the Partnership Disney had with Netflix, with their marvel properties and their movies and everything else. You know, if, if this turns out to be a popular thing, you know, maybe they end up breaking off. Right. And Disney's already launching its own streaming service, so they'll have the infrastructure to support it too. So how long is this relationship going to last before Disney pulls all of this content on Spotify? Like it did on Netflix?

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Well, maybe they're, you know, this is to give them a chance to see how, how much, you know, pull they have, you know, because I know that there were different streaming services, you know, around where, you know, and it was like music from the rides and you know, the, uh, the elevator music and stuff like that. So I wonder, you know, if any of that is going to carry over or if you know, all of that is still kinda separate.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. Should it be an interesting partnership to watch move? Yep. Definitely.

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Um, so this was a story that you actually found was that Disneyland honors the only Living Medal of honor recipient recipient. Um, yeah, I can't talk today, uh, from the Iraq war. Um, so they, they honored, um, this veteran, um, making him an honorary citizen of the resort. So former U s Army Staff Sergeant David, uh, Bellavia received the honor during the daily flag retreat ceremony at Disneyland on July 13th. Uh, Disney ambassador presented him with a certificate that officially declared him as an honorary sit, sit, excuse me, an honorary citizen of the Disneyland resort. Uh, the ceremony was also attended by salute, which is Disney's business employees resource group that works with veterans and help them to transition into civilian life. Um, it's a very p he said that this was a very patriotic ceremony and that he was very impressed with the way that Disneyland, uh, that the Disneyland resort had treated him and his and other veterans who have served, uh, in other generations across the branches of the military. Um, he was awarded the Medal of honor back in June. He's the first living Iraq war veteran to be given the prestigious honor. Um, after he saved his platoon Dur, um, in 2004, uh, during the second battle of Felicia, Felicia, sorry, um, which is considered to be the bloodiest conflict for the u s troops since the Vietnam War. Uh, he said that he felt kind of awkward and uncomfortable in to having the spotlight on him. Um, but he said, my commander in chief allowed me to bring my soldiers on the stage. And that meant so much to, to, uh, to them, um, that had never happened before in the medal of honor ceremony. And it's usually about one person and he was allowed to make it about his whole team. Yeah.

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So I think, I thought that was great. That was, you know, Disney Disney doing it right. We're showing a few Disney doing it wrong things. And this is a, a pat on the back, the Disney for acknowledging a hero, you know, two who was out there actually saving, like putting his life on the line and saving other lives. So yeah, Kudos to Disney and, and you know, we think, uh, staff sergeant the Labia for his service. Absolutely.

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So now we are going to show the teaser trailer for Disney's move on.

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Speaker 4:

Very cool. Yeah. Very cool on kicks. But I could totally see Oscar nominations for cinematography, for costume, for makeup. Uh, looks like a very well made movie.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it really does. It, it, you know, when it's a great story. It is. It is a fantastic story. You know, and Disney originally there mind not a Disney original, but it looks like they're almost going towards what the original was like. I don't know if this is going to be a musical or not. They didn't really give you anything. There was no hint to that. And you know, like you hear the music that you know from the Disney film, you know, but other than that, it looks like it's really mostly a, an action film. They need a cameo from no way in there though. Of course. Now that would be cool. That handing the torch or something. Right. Like, you know, that she's, you know, one of the elders or something. Yeah. That would be really good to love the fact that they've got jet lead thing, the emperor. Yeah. So that's, that's awesome. It definitely looks very cool and you know, a good cast, you know, so it'll be, it'll be interesting to see. Yeah. Okay. So that's all for Disney detective. That is it for the Disney detective. I'm done. See you. Bye. Bye. Don't drop them. I won't do that.

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Um,

Speaker 5:

all right. We have entertainment news, lots of, lots of lots and lots of it. Um, so the 2019 Emmy list came out and I tried figuring out what the best way was to go through this there or just one at a time. No, we're, we're actually not, we're not even going to go through all of them because there really is, you know, if you just go scroll through the, the website, you know, you have so many different categories. If you're showed it and get nominated for one fee, then something's really wrong. You know, and, and it's funny to see things that got nominated. You're like, oh, that came out within this past year. Oh, I, you know, something I totally forgot about. Um, so obviously, you know, the big noms, you know, came for game of Thrones, not really much of a surprise and the marvelous Mrs Maizel. Um, so the final season of, um, game of Thrones actually ended up leading the pack with 32 nominations. Um, but then you have all, you know, all these other really great shows that, you know, you know, you have the majority of the shows picked up multiple, you know, uh, Emmy, Emmy, excuse me, Emmy nominations. Um, so on the comedy front, Marvelous. Mrs Maizel earned 20 nominations. HBO Is Berry, um, Amazon primes fleabag and Netflix, Russian doll are among the shows that are going to be competing against, um, Julio Louis Dreyfus is, uh, veep, which is actually in its final season I believe. Um, so, and then you have, you know, FX is posse and you have BBC America's killing eve and this is us. So, you know, like there was really no easy way to go through the list because not only do you have your lead actors and actresses and the, um, guest star, you know, then you have your, um, supporting actor and actress. Then they have, um, lead actress in a limited series or a TV movie. Um, then you have your reality show and you have

Speaker 4:

also a lot of categories in here. Right. What I, when I look at the list now that I was just scrolling through here for the audience, uh, what I take away from that is there's a lot of shows and there's a lot of actors that are from a lot of our insightful picks.

Speaker 5:

Yes. Yeah. A lot of our insightful picks are actually, you know, part of this, um, a lot of Netflix stuff, you know, and, and that's what's kind of Nice to see is that, you know, back in the day it was basically, you know, the, the major three networks really were the ones that got everything. Then Fox kind of started to get, you know, a couple of things and then HBO came in and you know, cause when HBO started, they only played movies, they didn't have original content. And now you have HBO as a big player in it. And then all of a sudden you got Netflix, you got Hulu now.

Speaker 4:

Well see, and I look at that and I see Bandersnatch on there and a few other Dicks, uh, titles on there and I can't help but wonder who's going to play the angry Steven Spielberg version of television and call for rule changes. Now,

Speaker 5:

I don't know because this has been a, this has been a while now. So,

Speaker 4:

but you know, it's funny because this, um, I guess this sort of highlights the point that Spielberg made was that all right, well Netflix shows really should be listed for amies because they're really television shows. They're not actual movies. Well the only thing that distinguishes a Netflix show from a television or movie is whether or not they bothered to run it in the movie theaters in the Los Angeles district to be able to go up for an academy award. Bandersnatch obviously you couldn't because it was an interactive movie, which just as a side note, probably one of the coolest original ideas of pick your own type things. It was really cool. But you know, that was a high enough quality movie. If you played it straight through it could have easily been in the theaters and were up for, you know, and Oscar. Absolutely. So I'm curious how they're going to treat that. I mean, is that really a TV show at that point in time? Cause you couldn't watch it on TV. You had to watch it on an interactive device for it. Yeah. So, so who's going to complain? The dance and I've real

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real TV show now. Yeah. I don't know. You know, there's somebody out there, I'm sure there'll be somebody. But then again, like I said, if you look at the list it's so inclusive of you know everything even you know like various guest hosts for Saturday night live I saw were nominated Chandler has one time, first time combination, right. You only have to be on something one time and you could could get a nomination for one of these awards is a major honor. So it's almost like everybody gets a participation award. It does kind of seem that way when you go through the list. But then when you see, you know like here the supporting atrics you know in a drama one, two, three, four are all from game of Thrones. Like you have one show that that's kind of dominating, you know, best supporting actor on a TV show that aired on a day that ended in y. You know, it's like, well no, because that, that is the one thing is that, and that the academy awards doesn't really do that, you know, is that you have drama, you have comedy and then you know, and then I guess as specialized as certain shows became where it was like, you know, you had, you know, it's not a complete series. There might be only six episodes. So it's a limited run or a mini series. And that's what they used to, you know, they used to call it, you know, your mini series. Like the one thing that got me here as I'm scrolling through the list here and we have competition series, right? Okay. Programming competitive program. Like okay. Like at one point in time they were considered reality show. Right. And that's because again, the, each category has, has grown so much. So my point is that it's fun now that it's almost ridiculous in the number of openings. And I think even, you know, one of them is like musical or you know, musical variety, you know, show type thing. Yeah. The variety talk series. Right. What is the variety talk series though? The daily, the daily show show with Trevor, Trevor Noah, you've got Jimmy Kimmel, like those are talk shows. They're not variety talk show. So do we have talk shows too as a category? And you probably do. It's like how ridiculous. But I don't know, are there really any talk shows anymore? You don't really have things like, well I guess you kind of do what Jimmy Kimmel does is what Johnny Carson did. Right. But that would be considered a variety talk show versus a talk show like Oprah Winfrey, Oprah, rim free, and[inaudible] wasn't a variety of talk show. It was a talk show. Right, exactly. But now it's categorized as a, right. So let's, uh, let's change the rules so that everybody can, everybody can get it and everybody will get, no, well, pretty much everyone's in sixth

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grade and we're grinding the siblings, so we all get a participation award. If you didn't get nominated, you really kind of suck. That's exactly it. You're that one kidding last that didn't get called up for anything. Ya Know? So hopefully, maybe that's for the business. That's what it is. So if you didn't get nominated, you're not renewed for next year, you know what, it could be you never, so the 71st primetime Emmys will actually air live on Sunday, September 22nd at 8:00 PM on Fox. How excited. I'm bristling with anticipation. I know you're putting it on your calendar, aren't you?

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So in, um,

Speaker 6:

bursary news, I guess if you, Oh, did I forget a date? No, you're good. Okay.

Speaker 5:

You're good. Um, so if you've been living under a rock or, well I guess if you have, yeah,

Speaker 6:

I've been watching PBS. Um, so that's like 95% of them. I don't know. Some people,

Speaker 5:

well, um, uh, the Apollo 11 launch is actually celebrating its 50th anniversary. It was actually on a what, uh, the 16th, so two days ago. And on the 20th, I think there'll be landing on the moon, right, right. I believe so. Um, so CBS news was actually live streaming the original Al Apollo 11 broadcast in real time. Um, but they actually still have it available. If you go to, um, the link in the story, it'll take you to youtube and it'll actually show you the full, um, the full stream. Um, right quick quiz. Who's on the screen now? Here were those two people? Well, it's, it's, it's Cronkite. Yeah. And I don't know who the other is. Wally Sharah. Oh, okay, sure. No. Okay. Yeah. All right. Okay.

Speaker 6:

This is a prelude to the insights in the history podcast. It's currently in developed.

Speaker 5:

Oh, okay. Which I will not be a part of it. I'll just do the intro. Um, so yeah, so on Tuesday this, this was broadcasting and what's really neat is that, um, you got to see Walter Cronkite lie from Florida as it originally aired in 1969. Um, and what's really cool to see also is they have it, it's not edited, so you can actually see the commercials. If you, you know, fast forward through it. Um, you'll see various commercials for, um, toilet bowl cleaner and carpets and cheap trips on Greyhound. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

Bosses. Let's listen in for a little bit of Walter Cronkite. Sure.

Speaker 8:

38 years old from Wapakoneta, Ohio, blonde, blue eyed, five feet, 1,165 pounds. Purdue aeronautical engineer, graduate of 55, two sons, Eric, 12, mark six, test pilot of X. Dean's a naval aviator, 78 combat missions in Korea. Now a civilian, the man who has to put his foot man's first foot on the moon next Monday morning.

Speaker 5:

My God, how engaging was that? How could you tear your eyes away from the TV watching that? And that was the thing, you know, the, the space age back then, you know, it, it[inaudible] 15 minutes introducing buzz, uh, uh, Armstrongs. Okay. Hey, um, what's neat about it is that the, the news, uh, interruptions include everything from updates on the Vietnam war to human interest stories about mailman. Um, and it really kind of takes you back, you know, to what things were like 50 years ago and watching this, um, you know, and for, you know, people like you and me, we weren't born yet. So this is kind of interesting, you know, to, to see a glimpse, you know, not just, you know, part of the launch, but you know, a full, you know, couple of hours, you know, out of day in the life, you know, 50 years ago. So it's good history, right? Yes. It's good history. Okay. Very cool. So in a, a plug for history, yeah. For history. Yay. So another little feel good story, um, was that the author of good omens, uh, Neil Gaiman actually helped some students in need. So there was a Twitter user, uh, called Trina who hit a rough patch and was experiencing depression, um, and actually discovered the book, good omens, and it kind of transformed her life. And she's actually a teacher at a juvenile detention center and she thought maybe the book would kind of help her students who were kind of struggling this year. Um, so during the last week of school, she showed them the good omens, TV adaptation, and they were completely moved by the story and just, you know, Kinda took it all in that, you know, a demon and an angel could somehow save the world together. Um, and she wanted them to read the book, but she couldn't afford 60 books for her students. So, um, so she suggested sending a tweet and tagging, um, gay men, um, and seeing if anyone could donate. Well, what happened was better than fiction. He basically shared the tweet with his followers and soon dozens, a stranger stepped in to help showing the teens that they were not alone. Um, we sent a tweet and we, and we never expected that it was going to be seen by anybody. And so many people including, um, Neil sod the story spread. And Soon I was in touch with complete strangers, all who cared about my kids and wanted to help them. The teacher had said, um, on Twitter, people from all over the country donated items to the classroom and they had an Amazon wishlist. So, not only did it clued books, but it had art supplies, games, general classroom equipment, like sticky notes and calculators. And she was just thrilled that, you know, her, her students were getting something from people, you know, that just kind of cared. Um, she said finally somebody else was caring about my kids, like I do. The system has always been against them and so much, um, that they don't even believe in themselves. And that's what I was trying to do for them. And now thousands of strangers on Twitter are believing in them too. Um, she said, yeah, she said the past school year had been very difficult. Three or four former students is that who had actually died due to gang violence. Um, and after being released, uh, they had died in gang violence after being released from the center. So her students kind of felt lost and scared, you know, is this going to happen to us? And here now they got this outpour of support, um, you know, from, from total strangers. She said, I was lucky enough to have this book, helped me at my lowest point and to, you know, put it bluntly, it saved me, you know, I thought to end the school year, they needed something fun and something uplifting. And you know, now that I showed this to them, they not only fell in love with the show, but they fell in love with the book and all the, the support from people. So that was, that was really nice to, to hear

Speaker 4:

Kudos to, to Neil Gaiman for that and for everyone else who, you know, contributed to that. And now, I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer about this, but it's okay, where does it go from here? You know, if the system is failing right, and you got the notoriety that you needed to shine a light on that failure, you know, are these great, that's the system still needs to be fixed,

Speaker 5:

right? You need to still, you know, look at it. Yeah,

Speaker 4:

we'll donate it all this stuff and gave your kids a shot in the arm here. All right. But the real push needs to be to fix the system so that it doesn't get to that point in the future. Right. Otherwise, next year you're back in the same position you're in. No, I agree. So hopefully this will bring enough attention to it so that uh, you know, the real issues themselves could be fixed. But yeah, no Kudos to, to Neil again for that. And I think that's it for our entertainment news. It is week, so we shall come back with our insightful picks of the week. Okay. Okay. So I will and as turn it over

Speaker 5:

to you, my dear. Oh k. So I can't even believe I'm doing this as my insightful pick. It's so again, they're not necessarily good picks up their insights. If nothing else, it's a, it's like a cautionary tale. Don't watch it. Exactly. So I'll save you the time, you know, but it's, it's campy. If you're one of those, you need something mindless to watch, not really pay much attention to it. Here's a show for yet it's actually just a 32 minute mockumentary starring stranger thing, stranger things. David harbor as a fictional version of himself, basically playing himself, his and his grandfather and his father. Um, and it's called Frankenstein's monsters monster Frankenstein. Got that. Um, so it was, like I said, it's a, it's a what episode 32 minute mockumentary on Netflix. Um, and it's just, it's so campy. That's, that's really what it is.[inaudible] it reminded me a lot of, um, an Orson Welles, you know, 1970 shows. So, so basically the, you know, the idea is that he finds, um, some footage, you know, the current David David Jr, you know, finds old clips of his, his father and decides to, you know, do an interview and, and try and find out what happened to the show. And it seemed, you know, one of the, uh, the people that started the show was accidentally, you know, died in a car crash and, you know, he, he recreated his office and has a big sign, you know, a, um, has a hanging up on the wall, you know, that the, you know, Joey died in a car accident, you know, and, and just asking all these questions and it's just like I said, it's just campy. Um, in some cases it actually seemed like it was going on for longer than 32 minutes. Um, you know, but if you're a fan of that, you know, B movie type genre, you know, this is kind of like, all right, this is cute. I could, you know, watch it obviously has nothing to do with stranger things or his character or anything. Um, it's just interesting to kind of see him, you know, play himself, but then, you know, play his, his father and everything. And again, he does like a parody of Orson Welles, you know, and, and you know, there's these commercials where he's like, you know, eating beef Wellington and declaring, you know, very, you know, much like, you know, the John Lovitz character from Saturday night live, I'm acting, you know, it's, and that's how I got into Julliard is his, like his catchphrase. And, um, but it's kinda funny because like Alfred Molina is in talk is in it. He plays a, you know, a role, um, you know, so there's a couple of, you know, interesting guests starring people in this 32 minutes, you know, short words just like, all right. That was, that was really campy and I can't believe I spent 32 minutes watching it, but all right. It was Kinda cool. There'll be,

Speaker 4:

do you foresee me that 32 minutes of my life? I appreciate it. That's it. That's what I'm here for. Okay. Well I'd say that's a good pick, but that would be overly generous. I very interesting. That was an interesting, we'll go with. Interesting. Okay. Well thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 9:

Uh,

Speaker 4:

my pick as well was a from the bottom of the barrel. Pick this one, I actually, I stumbled across this one. And in, in prepping for the show, I learned that it's actually from 2013 so it's not exactly cutting edge, which explains why a lot of people that you interviewed are dead. So this was um, an Amazon prime video. It originally aired on PBS. Good stuff on TV. Hey, I'm telling you, you see where I get my stuff from. Okay. And it's a documentary, a shotgun shot. One of these days I'll actually re watch like a scripted television show and do enough rigging on it. This is Superheros, a never ending battle. There are three one hour episodes. It's a documentary to examine the draw of the comic book genre and it's powerful legacy as well as the evolution of the characters who leapt from the pages over the last 75 years and their ongoing worldwide cultural impact. It examines the evolution of Superhero characters and the Comic Book Industry Crumbling Chronicling, I think your inability to speak is contagious. Chronicle how disposables, the versions that cost just a dime became the foundation for a multibillion dollar industry whose products are an influential part of our national identity. And to put that into perspective before I continue, these were originally a dime, and we just had a movie based on these dime comic books that grossed over one and a half billion dollars, almost$2 billion on a diamond investment. Follow the fortunes of Superheros, the depression through Superman's television debut. When was that? 19

Speaker 2:

yeah.

Speaker 4:

Here's a hint. You were alive and a happened. No, I'm thinking of movies. Sorry, I didn't mean to, sorry. I forgot that I know. I, you know, I claimed to be a vampire. I know. I was thinking only because they did a whole big spiel on Christopher Reeves in the movie and stuff. Okay. So we'll just edit that. Fine. I'll edit that out in post production. Right. She now superheroes affect and reflect relevant social Moore's track the enthusiasm for superheroes as they embraced, as they're embraced in all media by all demographics. Um, it was an interesting show. They'd go through and they take you through a history. You know, literally from the beginning of the first comic books Murray, before they were even superheroes. Uh, you know, the, the pulp novels that the detective novels and stuff like that, they take you through the thirties into the forties. And really the, the hard times that the comic book industry fell on in the 50s when this purity and ideal of we can't have violence, you can't, you know, you can't show blood, you can't show this. And you had the comics code that was import, uh, imposed on the industry. Um, and it was to the point that you had legitimate offer authors who penned under different names because they didn't want the stigma and Stanley being one of them. Um, in a, in a kind of a touching interview that he did for the documentary, he talks about, you know, he had always wanted to write the great American novel and he did. When he did that, he didn't want it to be under the name of a guy who was writing comic books. So he took his pen name of Stan Lee from his Stanley Lieberman, you know, his full name standard. He remember what she was going up. That's what he's going to write his novel under. So he shortened it, the Stan lay and that's what he did. Comic books. And you know, nobody knows him as anything other than Stanley. So I think it, I think it's, you know, that's what he was known for. You know, there came a point where he embraced that and that became who he was, he didn't need to do. Right. And, and you know, ultimately we all benefited from that. The shore dead. So very cool. There are one hour episodes, uh, you get thrown pretty quick and uh, you know, they don't, this is the start of the marvel cinematic universe. So they sort of tease a little bit, cause you figure vendors came out in 2012 so they sort of tease that a little bit in here. You don't see all the later movies, which was kind of interesting. The, uh, the spin that they had, not knowing where it was going to go and the speculation and character development and stuff. So it was kind of interesting to go back that far and looking at it. So it is available on Amazon prime video now, uh, for streaming. It is superheroes, a never ending battle. Very cool. And uh, we have a quick afterthought. Sure. And we'll be back for that.

Speaker 9:

Uh,

Speaker 4:

so tell us what your afterthought is.

Speaker 5:

So again, if you're part of the world of Geekdom and conventions and whatnot, today actually starts San Diego comic con 50. Wow. You can believe, I can't even believe it's been around for 50 years. So it's definitely the, the, the place now where news happens, you know, this is where we're gonna see all the new trailers. We're gonna find out a whole bunch of different things about everything in anything, movies and, and television. Um, this is the Mecca of Geekdom. Yeah. This really is, this is, you know, probably on our bucket list at some point in time to make it out to,

Speaker 4:

well, after that disappointment at New York comic con, we have to go someplace that does it. Right.

Speaker 5:

Right. So I'm sure next week we will have a boatload of, of news. Um, you know, different things. We know that today, um, the, uh, new, what the heck? I don't know. I do sign language and I'm not even sure what language that was then. Don't even know. So there, you know, obviously you know, a bunch of, uh, trailers are going to be something, I know, trailer or something, you know, uh, Katz is going to be coming out tomorrow. Um, so they had the teaser trailer con worthy though. Cats, that's the thing you got, you know, various different, you know, things. So I can't remember what it was that I was thinking in the top of my head. I probably should have written it down beforehand, but that's okay. Um, so yeah, so next week we're probably gonna have a, a boatload of stuff to talk about, you know, of what's coming out. Gone Top gun. Thank you. Yeah. Um, uh, from, from, from San Diego, uh, all weekend long, you know, there'll be stuff going on. So, you know, we, we definitely want to know that. Let's

Speaker 4:

cheat a little bit. So you've got the, the trailer for it, Chapter Two's coming out on Jay and silent Bob reboots. Okay. Is going to premiere a, his dark materials. I don't know what that one is that was only listed here. Okay. I guess we'll have to wait for the rest. Yeah, well that was you there. There's

Speaker 6:

usually some surprises. Um, you know, things that people speculate throughout, you know, the coming months and, you know, the freaky clown one penny whistle or what's the thing you want? You didn't know that that's what it was. I didn't see the first one boy genre. I do. Yeah. Yeah. So again, just a heads up that next week is probably gonna be pretty chockfull of about maybe that too. I don't know. We'll say. All right. I think that's all we had for this week. I think it is what we'll be back next week with some more comic relief as we will shoot how much of a cultural, a slug that I am and not know who any of these important characters are from comic con. Yeah. So send us your comments and, um, and I think that's all we have. That's it. We'll see y'all next week. Have a good one guys.

Speaker 2:

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Introduction
Disney Detective
Entertainment News
Michelle's Insightful Pick of the Week
Joe's Insightful Pick of the Week
After thoughts